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| Did You Know This? Winaday Casino Complaint |
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I have been playing at Winaday Casino and I always felt it strange that I never won or even came close to getting a cashout after so many deposits, so I did some research and came across an article about Winaday and Slotland Casinos on another casino forum. I was very disturbed by what I found , so I contacted Winaday live help and below is their response when I quoted what the article stated about them.
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Marcus Wed, 09/23/15 01:46:17 pm America/New_York
Hello Client. How may I help you?
Client 01:46:46 pm
Hi awhile back I spoke with someone about my concerns about playing here
anyone I have continued my research and found something else. I have always felt like it was impossible to win here and now I know why
Marcus 01:48:21 pm
Well, there are players who in fact won back their money.
Client 01:49:06 pm
not according to this thread on a casino forum, who have winaday blacklisted
Marcus 01:49:24 pm
Well, anyone can go on some forum and post something.
Client 01:49:49 pm
This is what they said according to the casino own admission:
"Winaday
Added Dec. 13, 2012 Much like Slotland (see below), the odds of hitting a jackpot is not naturally determined by the cards, even by their own admission. Please note that all games share the same mechanism which determines the jackpot win. Thus, with card games, the probability of hitting the jackpot combination is not natural but controlled by this shared random mechanism in the same way as slot machines' wins. This statement can be found in the FAQ, under "How are the odds created for your games?" It would seem that card games are not the only ones affected by this manipulation of the odds. A complaint was raised with The Pogg about their roulette game. In short, a player bet on a single number in single-zero roulette 1156 times and never won. The probability of this is 1 in 57 trillion. While the casino admitted that was a mistake, they gave disaffected players a bonus only, with a mandatory play through requirement, as compensation. In my opinion the player should at least be given a full unconditional refund, preferably more as a penance.
Slotland
Added Dec. 13, 2012 It seems that Slotland shares the same cheating jackpot mechanism as Winaday (see above). Here is what they have to say about their Jacks or Better game. Please note that all Slotland games share the same mechanism which determines the jackpot win. Therefore, the probability of hitting the jackpot combination on JacksOrBetter is not natural but controlled by this shared random mechanism in the same way as slot machines' wins. — Jacks or Better rules."
Marcus 01:50:30 pm
That is from almost three years ago.
Client 01:51:17 pm
does not matter, the casino has not changed
Marcus 01:51:25 pm
If you want to beat a dog, you will always find a stick.
Client 01:51:47 pm
and i believe these odds are still present because it is impossible to win here
I have never won through any of my deposits, only once on a free chip in the amount of $200, I think
long time ago now
I can't see myself continuely depositing when the odds have already been set against me, sorry
would you/
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Marcus 01:54:15 pm
You should ask players who have deposited like 1000 times more than you. And there even those, who won their money back.
For instance, today there were players who were withdrawing thousands of $.
Client 01:55:10 pm
so you're saying I should keep depositing umtil I win my money back regardless of how long it may take, does that make any sense
why not just keep my money
Marcus 01:57:04 pm
Well, casino is not primarily the place where you go, when you want to earn money.
Client 01:57:41 pm
nor is it the place to go to give away free money, I should think
Marcus 01:58:17 pm
Casino is a place where you entertain yourself.
Client 01:58:33 pm
true but I want it to be fair
Marcus 01:58:37 pm
And every service like that is paid.
Because that what our western society is built on - services.
Client 01:59:09 pm
I am not going to play at a casino that is not fair to the players
Marcus 01:59:43 pm
Life is not fair.
Client 01:59:45 pm
okay, well have a good day Marcus and thank you and good bye
Marcus 02:00:00 pm
Have a nice day!
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Hans_Solo, Thanks for the information!
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| Re: Did You Know This? Winaday Casino Complaint |
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« Hans_Solo » wrote: I have been playing at Winaday Casino and I always felt it strange that I never won or even came close to getting a cashout after so many deposits, so I did some research and came across an article about Winaday and Slotland Casinos on another casino forum. I was very disturbed by what I found , so I contacted Winaday live help and below is their response when I quoted what the article stated about them.
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Actually, there are many unpleasant situations, that concern Slotland/Winaday company that are hidden with cunning and dishonesty.
Interesting articles had appeared on two different forums, one of which was subsequently acquired from a site that has put everything in silence.
There is a serious problem of transparency which concerns a considerable number of casino forums that are subservient to some "criminal reality".
'cause I think it's a crime to deceive the players who fully trust in your declared indipendence, instead their behaviors are guilty complacent, false and corrupt their judgement.
When I had problems with this casino, I realized that there was nothing to do ... that many forums were on their payroll.
Discussions on complaints become useless, the truths are refuted and you will put in the wrong.
Your inconvenient comments are deleted and account banned ... and in the forum appear positive comments from fake users.
This is why I have always hoped that there was a place like this ..
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NoLuckNeeded.com's Warning about game integrity problems at Winaday casino are listed here. Players should be very careful with Slotland Casino and Winaday Casino.
'WARNING: Winaday Casino's software was found to have substantial game integrity issues with at least one instance of an active game (roulette) not allowing a player to win at all. Additionally, Slotland's progressive video poker game clearly states that "the odds of winning the jackpot do not conform to the natural odds of hitting a Royal Flush". '
It is also interesting to note that when Winaday and Slotland "refunded" players who had played their rigged roulette game, the refunds were issued in the forum of bonus money, not cash.
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Someone said..."Welcome! Slotland has been reliable and prompt with affiliate payments for many years. I just worry about game integrity issues and gaming fairness for my players."...
I love NLN deeply! 
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I agree with the above sadly. I just posted somewhere else how hard it is to win there. Then i saw this post. Now i know i am not alone.
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I remember when cat posted that about WinADay. I have never deposited at either for my own reasons and now I have a few more reasons, NOT TO DEPOSIT.
This has been very enlightening for me!
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« debidug » wrote: I remember when cat posted that about WinADay. I have never deposited at either for my own reasons and now I have a few more reasons, NOT TO DEPOSIT.
This has been very enlightening for me!
Sad they are rated high at another place(you know where) and the slots are so very tight like they set you up to lose. Funny after that post i claimed bonus free spins and won $100 max withdraw. Writings on the wall.
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« Cat50 » wrote: « debidug » wrote: I remember when cat posted that about WinADay. I have never deposited at either for my own reasons and now I have a few more reasons, NOT TO DEPOSIT.
This has been very enlightening for me!
Sad they are rated high at another place(you know where) and the slots are so very tight like they set you up to lose. Funny after that post i claimed bonus free spins and won $100 max withdraw. Writings on the wall.
Did you hear that they finally got bitcoin deposit and withdrawal!
I just requested $25 in bitcoin, so I might give em a try!
Wish me luck.........
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Well good luck deb idug. P
lease come back and let us know how it goes.
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| Re: Did You Know This? Winaday Casino Complaint |
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Thanks for sharing! I didn know that
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